Was Jesus black?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usshb28aNdQ
raymond frantz
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Was Jesus Black?
by raymond frantz inwas jesus black?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usshb28andq .
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Most solid evidence I've seen linking WT to Mason, somebody try to debunk this lol
by EndofMysteries inwhat is in the background?????.
now read what was released and given to all convention attenders about the building of his gravesite, about what's inside it, and about who owns all the land.
from the book called souvenir report of the bible student's convention jan. 2-5, 1919 link:.
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raymond frantz
He never said he was a Mason ,but he used Masonic Symbols ,thought as a Mason and structured Jehovah's Witnesses as a Freemasonic Pyramid ,from which we still suffer opression from the leaders today .How cares if he had real ties ,the ideology and symbols survive today .Deception lies and power distribution in the form of a pyramid....
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Jason BeDuhn regarding Revelation 7 and the Great Crowd
by Sauerkraut ina while ago i sent an e-mail to jason beduhn, that the society is quite fond of.
they like to quote him in publications.
so when i started researching the great crowd and the accuracy of the earthly hope doctrine i thought i might write him and ask him what the exact meaning of "before the throne" (revelation 7:9) and "temple" (7:15) is.
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raymond frantz
I got it many thanks
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Jason BeDuhn regarding Revelation 7 and the Great Crowd
by Sauerkraut ina while ago i sent an e-mail to jason beduhn, that the society is quite fond of.
they like to quote him in publications.
so when i started researching the great crowd and the accuracy of the earthly hope doctrine i thought i might write him and ask him what the exact meaning of "before the throne" (revelation 7:9) and "temple" (7:15) is.
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raymond frantz
Could you please email me the scan to [email protected] and then I will put it on my website www.new-jw.org .Many thanks!
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Jason BeDuhn regarding Revelation 7 and the Great Crowd
by Sauerkraut ina while ago i sent an e-mail to jason beduhn, that the society is quite fond of.
they like to quote him in publications.
so when i started researching the great crowd and the accuracy of the earthly hope doctrine i thought i might write him and ask him what the exact meaning of "before the throne" (revelation 7:9) and "temple" (7:15) is.
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raymond frantz
Saurkraut !!!
Could you please make this letter an attachment so we can all download and keep for our archives ?
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Jason BeDuhn regarding Revelation 7 and the Great Crowd
by Sauerkraut ina while ago i sent an e-mail to jason beduhn, that the society is quite fond of.
they like to quote him in publications.
so when i started researching the great crowd and the accuracy of the earthly hope doctrine i thought i might write him and ask him what the exact meaning of "before the throne" (revelation 7:9) and "temple" (7:15) is.
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raymond frantz
Thank you so much for sharing .This is an amazing find from a scholar the WT respects and quotes 17 times in recent years
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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raymond frantz
" Νηψων ανομηματα μη μοναν ωψην " this is for you RECOVERY and your GB idol ,when you learn Greek one day you will learn what that means and how to use it .You can read it backwards and forwards the same
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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raymond frantz
If someone is in heaven and serves inside the temple of God which is in heaven "εν τω ναω" what dramatic evidence can you provide for the opposite?Why don't you just admit the truth ? The one that 99.99% of other christian denominations know already ?That the great crowd is a heavenly group of spritual creatures and that the only reason the WT wants them on earth SO desperately is to support their "clergy" class of which only 9 have the special priviledge of changing doctrine whereas the rest of the "anointed " on earth are non existant or not consulted in any way. This has been the most upseting twisted doctrine that stops 7,5 million partaking of the emblems every year and making a mockery of Jesus memorial .Get over it we're only going to heaven (hopefully without Antony Morris and co ,who are going to hell ,and that is a fact)
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Was it all for nothing ? We can't we start over again ?
by raymond frantz ini know 99% of the posts here are for exposing wt doctrines and fallacies ,but there was a time that we really believed that we had full bible understanting .i know now that this is the case ,but why can't we use that as a starting point rather than the end of the road ?
why can't we be more like the jews of john the baptist's day that acknoledged their errors and started over again by whiping the slater clean and getting baptised in expectation of the messiah's coming ?.
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raymond frantz
Mission accomplished for Satan then
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Was it all for nothing ? We can't we start over again ?
by raymond frantz ini know 99% of the posts here are for exposing wt doctrines and fallacies ,but there was a time that we really believed that we had full bible understanting .i know now that this is the case ,but why can't we use that as a starting point rather than the end of the road ?
why can't we be more like the jews of john the baptist's day that acknoledged their errors and started over again by whiping the slater clean and getting baptised in expectation of the messiah's coming ?.
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raymond frantz
I know 99% of the posts here are for exposing WT doctrines and fallacies ,but there was a time that we really believed that we had full Bible understanting .I know now that this is the case ,but why can't we use that as a starting point rather than the end of the road ? Why can't we be more like the Jews of John the Baptist's day that acknoledged their errors and started over again by whiping the slater clean and getting baptised in expectation of the Messiah's coming ?